In Support of Licensing

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With the newest issue of Angie’s List magazine focusing on contractor licensing, construction and service professionals would be well advised to either a) ensure that all their company’s licenses and registrations are up-to-date, or b) work on getting licensed ASAP if it’s a business step they’ve forgone up to now.

Many states already have contractor licensing laws in place, and others are working to enact them. Now, Angie’s List founder Angie Hicks is asking lawmakers nationwide to pass standardized licensing laws. The goal, Hicks says, is to give consumers the peace of mind that individuals working in their homes are qualified to perform the work.

Currently, 750,000 consumers in 124 cities are Angie’s List members. Those consumers write 40,000 reviews every month about service providers they’ve worked with, including details about whether or not they would hire them again. And with the intense focus on licensing, there’s a new detail to think about: As of Sept. 1, the organization is now requiring Angie’s List companies to confirm that they are in compliance with state and local laws. What’s more, Angie’s List will be auditing contractors to verify that they are following the law. Those not in compliance will have an opportunity to update their licenses or face actions from Angie’s List, including member notification of the company’s noncompliant status.

So, Why Do You Care?
Maybe you don’t do business with Angie’s List, and maybe you’re not intimidated by how it works. Maybe you see Angie’s List as a place for impossible-to-please homeowners to gripe and grumble because they weren’t happy with the work done at their house. Maybe your state has no licensing policies, so how can you be licensed? And maybe you think licensing is none of Angie’s List’s business.

That’s all fine, but let’s not forget that the website serves not just as a place for homeowners to air grievances, but also as a place to share praise about service providers who have gone above and beyond. Maybe your clients aren’t posting negative reviews about your company, but don’t you want them to think about Angie’s List when they want to share positive stories with 750,000 of their closest friends?

To the licensing point, it’s true that the licenses and registrations cost money and take time to acquire. It’s true that licensing is poorly enforced in some areas, and that some licensing tests may be more meaningful than others. And it’s true that contractors that do great work at a fair price for happy homeowners may not feel they need a license to prove their qualifications. I think it’s for these reasons that many unlicensed contractors choose not to go through the process.

But it’s also true that in many states licensing is required by law, and that continuing to work unlicensed in these states is illegal. Period. And while a company’s quality of work and word-of-mouth flair may be enough to maintain a backlog of eager customers, being licensed illustrates that the same company is intent on not just doing good work, but running a legal, compliant business. (Perhaps unlike the unlicensed XYZ Company down the street.)

Looking Out for the Consumer
Angie’s List is, first and foremost, a consumer-protection organization, which I appreciate as a consumer. (Aren't we all consumers, after all?) But because I work every day in an industry of small-business owners and service professionals, I would like to see more contractor benefits from organizations like Angie’s List and from state licensing boards, both of which often favor consumer rights and protections over those of the business owner.

That said, I wouldn’t ride in a car with an unlicensed driver, and I won’t hire an unlicensed contractor to work in my house. Not every consumer or service provider works with Angie’s List, but the name is well-known, and its efforts will reach and educate millions of homeowners beyond those who invest in its services. This includes licensing efforts.

Remodeling’s mission has always been to deliver business advice and best practices to its readers, and I believe this is one of those messages. It might take a little time and cost a little money, but it’ll be worth it in the end – if not to prove that you are qualified to do your job, then to prove that those who aren’t licensed aren’t qualified.

So far, Angie's List representatives say the majority of the feedback they've received regarding their state licening encouragement efforts has been positive – and has come largely from the trades, not from homeowners. How do you feel about the licensing laws in your state, and compliance around your area and around the industry. Share your comments here, or feel free to contact me directly.

Lauren
lhunter@hanleywood.com
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Comments (9 Total)

  • Posted by: Acontracting | Time: 9:33 PM Thursday, September 17, 2009

    Keep up the great work.Make it fair for the LICENSED AND INSURED. Anderson Contracting LLC

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  • Posted by: Anonymous | Time: 5:31 PM Thursday, September 17, 2009

    To Gantonoli: Your, most recent comments are perfectly stated and totally accurate. One needs to do, what one needs to do. I'm sure that you'll have many years of success ahead of you. Good luck in all your endeavors. Anonymous Blogger#1

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  • Posted by: Anonymous | Time: 4:51 PM Thursday, September 17, 2009

    To Gantonioli: Re: State Licensing for HI/Remodelors. I'm out of the business now, so I'm not even sure why I should be responding, but your blog is written wearing "rose colored glasses." It's great to quote FDR,the point that you're missing is that another President, Ronald Reagan said that "the scariest 9 words in the English language are: I'm from the Government and I'm here to help." In these blogs, no one has, as yet, stated that they're afraid to take a state mandated qualification test for remodeling. Quite the contrary, I happen to be a Certified Remodeler, too, and have been for more than 20 years. Excuse the boast,but what I forgot, is the extent of a lot of contractors knowledge. These new laws vary from state to state. In Pennsylvania, the remodeler's Social Security Number, Home Address and Home Telephone Number must be furnished on the license application. What, on earth, is now the purpose in being a corporation. Why should the contractor, with a super clean record, be forced to "jump through hoops" to satisfy the whims of some political hack who came up with these regulations, and doesn't know a hammer from a ball point pen. By the way, we've done plenty of work for doctors and attorneys. They chose a qualified remodeler, not another surgeon or judge. What makes you think that because someone doesn't want to put up with the great imposition that these laws sometimes present,that we are automaticall unqualified. As far as sales training, I given seminars and workshops on remodeling all over the country. What course instructs you how to collect your money, when in the back of a "lowlife" customer's mind, he had no intention to pay your full price, to begin with. Show me what protection contractors are receiving from these licensing laws. Don't mean to take the wind out of your sails. I was once filled with exhuberance about my trade too! Anomyous Blogger #1

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  • Posted by: gantonioli | Time: 4:35 PM Thursday, September 17, 2009

    To Anonymous #1: You are to be commended for earning the right to retire, the ultimate proof that you must have done something right. I would say "congratulations", but nobody "wins" retirement, they earn it. That said, every industry changes and has to respond to shifting market conditions and consumer demands. Ours is no different. Those of us who will still be in it for a while better stop complaining about who moved our cheese and find a way to profitably fix the houses that need fixing. Change=Opportunity.

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  • Posted by: gantonioli | Time: 1:19 PM Thursday, September 17, 2009

    "So, first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself..." FDR We operate in Massachusetts. I, my Production Manager, and my 7 of my field crew are licensed. My employees paid for and pursued their licenses on their own. No big deal or effort. I am for licensing, because in our state, if you can't pass the test, you REALLY shouldn't allowed to touch someone else's home. If you can't pay for, study for, and pass the test, you won't be able to run a profitable business. I hear contractors bitching that their knowlege base rivals that of doctors and lawyers, yet they fear being tested on that knowlege as doctors and lawyers are tested. Lastly, and obviously, if you can't differentiate yourself from a low-baller and get the price you need to sustain your excellent business, you need sales training.

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  • Posted by: Anonymous | Time: 8:47 PM Wednesday, September 16, 2009

    In a country that claims to despise socialism, there is a never ending line of those that want to control others to save others that are too lazy to educate themselves to understand something as common as house building. They don't mind that they are requiring many who can't afford to pay extra for housing to afford the overhead of licensing and government bureaucracy. She cavalierly writes: "That said, I wouldn’t ride in a car with an unlicensed driver, and I won’t hire an unlicensed contractor to work in my house." . It is obvious that she doesn't have to worry about raising children on minimum wages and have to commute ten miles or more to work in an area without public transportation. If she had to do that, it would take less than a week to accept a ride from an underage unlicensed kid who is willing to give someone a lift for gas money. And while a government is willing to license to get more of our money any way that they can, the same government is never willing to guarantee the work of those that they license. The government is forever unaccountable but they want the individual accountable to the government. A classic case of Nietzsche's Will To Power theory. I object to any mandatory licensing program because it interferes with property rights and the rights of individual to sell their services which are the only assets most of us have. If there is to be a licensing system, then the license should have enough value that will create enough demand intrinsically without the strong arm of government and mob rule. Dieter Schmied dieter@one.net

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  • Posted by: Anonymous | Time: 6:53 PM Wednesday, September 16, 2009

    WOW! Anonymous #2 - you have a lot of negativism. I hear what you're saying and if we all looked on the "other" side of the coin - we would feel like you. However, I think that not everyone can afford our services or fit into our model of doing business. Sure - we lose business to low bidders - but those prospects didn't see the value in our services. As far as licensing - we are all for it - there are so many "bubba's" in our industry it is ridiculous. However, we had state registration for the last 5 years and our legislature decided it wasn't working - that it favored the builders too much and the homeowners wanted to do away with it! All the homeowners I've spoken with can't believe that they've done this! Our city building departments were just starting to ask for registration numbers before permits could be obtained. There were statutory warranty periods. Now? Nothing. The bubba can warranty for a week, a month or not at all and can go out and get any permit they want! I'm all for companies like Angie's List - however I believe they should allow companies to be members, not only consumers. And how is it that they say they don't "favor" any company when they allow some to advertise and not others? Hmmm...

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  • Posted by: Anonymous | Time: 4:06 PM Wednesday, September 16, 2009

    Amen to that. Proof that another intelligent and able contractor is leaving the trade. Trades are being taken over by uneducated and untrained people because the consumer wants a cheap price. A uniform licensing system with proof that you are capable is the only thing that will solve this problem. I tell people that I love my job, but I hate this business for just that reason.

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  • Posted by: Anonymous | Time: 3:29 PM Wednesday, September 16, 2009

    "Watchdog" groups like Angies's List, state licensing laws, and politicians who frequent their "anti-contractor" soapboxes have come into existence as a direct result of the homeowners quest for lower prices. Most consumers have never learned the simple adage that: "If you play with fire, chances are, you're sure to get burned." As a veteran contractor with more than forty years experience in the business, when my state enacted a licensing law, earlier this year, I retired. It certainly wasn't because of a lack of professionalism, "skill and know how" or the cost of liability insurance. It wasn't even the small fee required to become, "officially licensed." Note: We always carried a minimum of 2 million dollars in contractor's insurance. We got out due to the fact that, before any of our customers signed a contract, they were given references, a finished jobs list (complete with addresses and phone numbers of our previous clients),along with before and after photographs of past projects. We actually urged prospects to call our past customers. Guess what? None of it mattered towards the end of my career. If my company wasn't the low bidder, the job went to someone who was. A lot of the HI companies that we lost out to, are the same ones that have made the local headlines (on our news stations and local papers) for disappearing with deposits, poor quality materials and a disasterous lack of mechanical ability. Our reasoning for hanging up the tools is, if we weren't competitive enough before the law was enacted, these laws will only drive prices up further. Combine that with fact that there is at general atmosphere in America that I can only describe as a "culture of entitlement." In simpler terms, what that spells for the remodeler is that when it comes time to collect the final payment, your customer will somehow find a way to beat you down and not pay the "full price to which they agreed to," that same number that you need to stay profitable. Although, officially, many choose to deny this fact of American life, anyone that's been out in the "trenches" for a while knows that every homeowner knows an attorney, or someone who has had a great amount of success suing legitimate business people for no good reason. When in court, the image of the "little guy" homeowner, versus (what is mistakenly viewed as)the larger contracting company with deeper pockets, almost always results in some kind of payment on the part of the contractor to the homeowner, including the resulting court costs. The code of honor in all relationships, that existed when we started our business in the late 1960's went the way of the "Nehru Jacket." Hate to be the bearer of sad tidings, but my white hair comes with experience and knowledge. I'm fortunate enough to be able to retire, at a time when others are struggling. I wouldn't change a thing about our "business timing." We enjoyed a great deal of success when it was a pleasure doing business. Those days are done!

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Lauren Hunter

thumbnail image Lauren joined Hanley Wood in 2006 with a focus on bringing trends and new products information to the readers of Remodeling, Replacement Contractor, and Upscale Remodeling magazines. When she's not in the office, Lauren travels to industry trade shows nationwide to keep up-to-date on new products and tools available to the building trades. She'll be sure to share details on what she finds on the trade show floor in her posts on the Remodeling blog.